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		<title>By: WordPress 2.5 vs 2.3.3 - My Humble Abode</title>
		<link>http://welcomebackrosenthal.com/wordpress-25-is-a-pile-a-shit-why-sacrifice-usability-to-be-fancy/comment-page-1/#comment-159</link>
		<dc:creator>WordPress 2.5 vs 2.3.3 - My Humble Abode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] At least I&#8217;m not the only one that feels that this latest version of WordPress has some major problems: there is a way to revert back to 2.3.3 widget admin? (source) The new widget admin is a nightmare also&#8211;you only see one sidebar at a time, and you can no longer drag to remove widgets. Had I known, I would have stuck with 2.3. (source) WordPress 2.5 Widget Interface - I don</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] At least I&#8217;m not the only one that feels that this latest version of WordPress has some major problems: there is a way to revert back to 2.3.3 widget admin? (source) The new widget admin is a nightmare also&#8211;you only see one sidebar at a time, and you can no longer drag to remove widgets. Had I known, I would have stuck with 2.3. (source) WordPress 2.5 Widget Interface &#8211; I don</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://welcomebackrosenthal.com/wordpress-25-is-a-pile-a-shit-why-sacrifice-usability-to-be-fancy/comment-page-1/#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 20:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YES Steve.
I&#039;m losing formatting too. And if I use bold or underline the punctuation at the end of the sentence gets moved like this . With that extra space.

And yeah, I&#039;m trying to hang with 2.5 and modifying it on my own. But almost everyday I REALLY think about going back to 2.3.3. Maybe dual support should be encouraged until 2.5.1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YES Steve.<br />
I&#8217;m losing formatting too. And if I use bold or underline the punctuation at the end of the sentence gets moved like this . With that extra space.</p>
<p>And yeah, I&#8217;m trying to hang with 2.5 and modifying it on my own. But almost everyday I REALLY think about going back to 2.3.3. Maybe dual support should be encouraged until 2.5.1</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://welcomebackrosenthal.com/wordpress-25-is-a-pile-a-shit-why-sacrifice-usability-to-be-fancy/comment-page-1/#comment-164</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s time for a &quot;pro&quot; and &quot;con&quot; list. Everyday I keep hearing about new bugs and strange behaviors as well as the general dislikes. I&#039;d like to see a comprehensive list of the good and bad instead of finding out about a problem weeks from now. Is anyone doing this?

For my part I&#039;ve started having  posts lose their formatting after an edit and I&#039;ve had to recreate the article. Several times now I&#039;ve had to turn plugins on and then off to fix problems and they are plugins supposedly updated for 2.5.

I&#039;m sure a lot of work went into the new version but I think they could have done what the Joomla people are doing. They have two versions of Joomla running, even installable through Fantastico, until a majority of users upgrade. It&#039;s more work to support two versions but it might help the transition go smoother. How difficult could it be to continue to provide security updates to 2.33?

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s time for a &#8220;pro&#8221; and &#8220;con&#8221; list. Everyday I keep hearing about new bugs and strange behaviors as well as the general dislikes. I&#8217;d like to see a comprehensive list of the good and bad instead of finding out about a problem weeks from now. Is anyone doing this?</p>
<p>For my part I&#8217;ve started having  posts lose their formatting after an edit and I&#8217;ve had to recreate the article. Several times now I&#8217;ve had to turn plugins on and then off to fix problems and they are plugins supposedly updated for 2.5.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure a lot of work went into the new version but I think they could have done what the Joomla people are doing. They have two versions of Joomla running, even installable through Fantastico, until a majority of users upgrade. It&#8217;s more work to support two versions but it might help the transition go smoother. How difficult could it be to continue to provide security updates to 2.33?</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mike!
Your comment is perfect because it points out exactly what I said-people using WP were going to see the problems immediately.

Another thing is, you wrote &quot;ovber&quot; and I know you meant &quot;over&quot; but they TOOK the edit comment feature away (I thought). That&#039;s crazy. I used to be able to help people out and fix little things like that. I can&#039;t  even edit my OWN comments, I thought I had to delete and re-do them. And I figured out you &lt;strong&gt;can &lt;/strong&gt;still edit but the clearly marked button is gone-why hide that feature?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike!<br />
Your comment is perfect because it points out exactly what I said-people using WP were going to see the problems immediately.</p>
<p>Another thing is, you wrote &#8220;ovber&#8221; and I know you meant &#8220;over&#8221; but they TOOK the edit comment feature away (I thought). That&#8217;s crazy. I used to be able to help people out and fix little things like that. I can&#8217;t  even edit my OWN comments, I thought I had to delete and re-do them. And I figured out you <strong>can </strong>still edit but the clearly marked button is gone-why hide that feature?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Cane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a huge outcry over at WP.com, the free service I use.  They switched to 2.5 while I was in the middle of things, on a Friday evening!  The first thread to complain about the changes got shut down within an hour.  But the flood of complaints was too great for them to close every thread.  A lot of the complaining had to do with bugs that needed fixing (obscure coding things that mainly affected OS X, Linux, and Win98).

Some people just didn&#039;t like the change for the sake of change.

One good thing came of it, after ovber a year of using WP.com, I learned I could compose *offline*.  For involved posts, I now use BlogDesk, and love it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a huge outcry over at WP.com, the free service I use.  They switched to 2.5 while I was in the middle of things, on a Friday evening!  The first thread to complain about the changes got shut down within an hour.  But the flood of complaints was too great for them to close every thread.  A lot of the complaining had to do with bugs that needed fixing (obscure coding things that mainly affected OS X, Linux, and Win98).</p>
<p>Some people just didn&#8217;t like the change for the sake of change.</p>
<p>One good thing came of it, after ovber a year of using WP.com, I learned I could compose *offline*.  For involved posts, I now use BlogDesk, and love it.</p>
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