Don’t Use Mailchimp For Marketing-They Just Committed Suicide and Don’t Even Know it

I was really torn on what to title this piece. I started with;
“Mailchimp, the epitome of dumbasses”
Then I was thought about;
“Mailchimp; from whimsical to a jock in 10 seconds flat”

But it’s irrelevant, just don’t use them. For your OWN GOOD, don’t mess with them. They now equate affiliate marketing to alcohol and porn. For real! They gradually snuck in a few new rules in their Terms and Conditions.


I’m guessing it happened around April and then they really began to enforce those policies around September. Simply evil they way they went about it. I personally HAVE an account and I’ve received no kind of notification. So I went through their blog and still couldn’t find anything.

The only thing they’re really talking about is all the smaller email companies they’ve been absorbing and the fact that they FINALLY reached a million members after 10 years. But guess what? I predict that number will be their high point and they will start to slowly loose member over the next 12 months and probably sometime in 2013 they’ll go out of business.

So maybe you’re wondering why PROHIBITING AFFILATE MARKETING is such a big deal. Well, think it about. There are obvious cases of affiliate marketing where you painfully build up a list and then try and promote goods and services to that list. Obvious. And now a banned technique. But in the broader sense of the concept let’s say you have your OWN product, well that’s just 1 product and they’re almost a 100 percent chance you will eventually write to your list about products and services that work well with your product. Well, now you’re an affiliate and if you use Mailchimp you have to try to sneak the promotion in. That’s Goddamn ridiculous. This is a company YOU ARE PAYING for and you have to sneak a product in. Or let’s say you have your OWN product, well that’s just 1 product and they’re almost a 100 percent chance you will eventually write to your list about products and services that work well with your product. Well, now you’re an affiliate and if you use Mailchimp you have to try to sneak the promotion in. That’s Goddamn ridiculous. This is a company YOU ARE PAYING for and you have to either sneak a product in our ask them to review the product and have them arbitrarily have one of their nimrods decide if they like it or not.

WHY on God’s green earth would anybody put their business in some assholes hands like that? Well they WOULDN’T. And you shouldn’t either. They’re not the company to use. Oh I might STILL use their email service for like answering support tickets or something. But I wouldn’t even use them for what they’re trying to be now; which is basically a newsletter distribution service. They might as well discontinue the entire autoresponder suite of functions and the blasts, and pretty much the whole thing. It’s just so asinine. And so damn EVIL. To not put what’s restricted in bright red large letters right on their homepage is deceptive, underhanded, and such a time wasting venture for anybody who signs up for their service BASED ON THEIR MARKETING OF THEMSELVES.

MAN! Their actions are infuriating. It’s been a LOOOOONG time since I’ve written any kind of “review” for some service. I just don’t have the time and TRUST me I’ve dealt with such horrible services that I could, literally, build an entire blog dedicated to bad, shady, and poor service online. But what’s the point of putting down crappy companies? Well it’s a public service. I came out of “retirement” because this is a big one, people need to know. Use them at your own risk.

I spent months in 2010 comparing email services and FINALLY chose those guys I was JUST about to start putting that account to good use. Then I read an email from Shoemoney  and then did a search on Warrior Forum and man oh man the horror stories just start rolling in Even to the point of people not writing any marketing INSIDE the email, but having a link to their own site with just a BANNER on it and having their accounts closed. So I wrote Mailchimp and they confirmed it. And then I asked when they started the policy and where they announced it. And they went silent. Never heard from them again.

Now I use another mail service and advise this domain service.


Here’s some links to read about people having their asses handed to them by Mailchimp…





And I think in this on there was some stuff in the comments where the guy gets shut down


And this is some big time marketers talking about how bad this move was…


T-Mobile G2 with Google Discount of the Year. Take a Look at Mine

So the bad news is that after 4 and a half solid years my SUPER advanced MDA smartphone had a screen failure. The good news is that something like the T-Mobile G2 with Google exists and makes me completely forget the loss of my phone. The T-Mobile G2 with Google, as it’s called is a phone so new it didn’t even come out until TODAY. But I got my G2 a day early, so I’m able to show you some pictures and a video from the place I got mine on super low discount-Let’s Talk, CLICK HERE to visit them.

T-Mobile G2 with Google real

Of course that’s the G2 in real life, the advertised picture is pretty fancy but I think it’s pretty accurate too. You can go to the website and see for yourself.

T-Mobile G2 with Google


A place to get the best price on these phones is…

Surprise it’s ebay! It’s pretty obvious if you think about it, but recently I wanted to get ANOTHER G2 so I went over and saw a bunch of them. If you go look at the prices over there it’s the best possible place for a break price other Let’s Talk in my opinion.

Anyway back in ’99 I was another “government employee” working on the 2000 Census project as a crew leader. I had about 40 folks working under me and decided it was time for a “cell phone.” And Let’s Talk, then as now, had the BEST PRICES. Those guys have rebates and specials on phones I don’t see anywhere else. I’m telling you they have a deal on the T-Mobile G2 that I don’t think is too easy to find, so last week I pre-ordered it.

T-Mobile G2 with Google front

T-Mobile G2 with Google back

4G and Android

So let’s see, officially “Based on 4G network speeds currently available in the US; our new HSPA+ network not available everywhere. Google, the Google logo, Google Voice, Google Voice Search, Gmail, Android, and Android Market are trademarks of Google Inc. ” And so in a nutshell if you don’t want or like iPhones they Android is a VERY viable alternative. I knew for a FACT I didn’t want ATT Wireless or the closed source that comes with iPhones. And a lot of people feel that way, and it’s why Androids are taking off. In fact I looked a few different carriers/phones on Let’s Talk.

I checked out the Droid 2 on Verizon. They have a really good network, they’re own CDMA, but in my memory I always assume they can be a little pricey, but that’s not really the case anymore. So that Droid 2 giant screen almost had me.

Droid 2

And I also looked at a Sprint Evo. MAN this phone does a lot and it’s just great to look at. It’s also by HTC, so like my old MDA and new T-mobile G2 it’s a phone “type” that I know pretty well.

Sprint Evo

But since I had a no-contract account with T-mobile I decided to stick with them. Yesterday I took the G2 out on my half hour fat man walk to get back in shape 10 minutes after the UPS guy dropped it off, and I was able to figure it out WHILE WALKING. I got online and started streaming some exercise music.

T-Mobile G2 with Google keyboard

Don’t get me wrong I TRIED to save my MDA. Years ago back in the 2000’s I was one of those guys hanging out at Howard’s Forum who didn’t mind taking apart an expensive phone or changing the firmware on his own. For the MDA I was actually able to find the service manual. Because I think what happened to it was the screen just blew a few pixels and that eventually spread and basically made it look like this…


Next I went to eBay and phone what was SUPPOSED to be a compatible screen and then began this ugly job…

MDA taken apart

But I really don’t think you want to be involved with this! The phone itself still works, and HTC quoted me a repair price, but that $10 screen from eBay was calling my name. And I did a great job, it still works fine. But that screen isn’t responding to touch, so I think I got screwed. SO I’m putting this bad boy out to pasture and one day I’ll get back to it and find the RIGHT screen. In the meantime I just switched SIM cards and I’ve been on the T-Mobile G2 with Google every since-that “ever since” means a whole 24 hours!

5 Resources To Get Into Mobile Marketing And Start Making Money

Here’s my confession; since early December 2009 I’ve been making money using mobile devices almost every single day. And I haven’t really told anybody about it. But good news; this piece will give you the top 5 players in mobile who don’t mind sharing their secrets. (And here’s a hint; the one I’d actually buy is the last one on the list).

The only real bad news is that I’ve had yet ANOTHER new hard drive burn out on me so this version of this post is pretty much abridged. With most of my expository images and personal tips and tricks not included. The hard drive data should be extracted soon so if YOU want the longer version of the article maybe I can send you a pdf or something like that. But don’t worry this thing is still jam packed with insights. So let’s get started!

“Mobile Marketing.” It’s here. And it’s BEEN here. In fact if you read anything on the net these days all you hear about is the fact that “it’s here.” Now me, I’m not going to waste your time quoting ten thousand different surveys and studies. You already know that everybody has a phone. What you might not know yet is that some countries have saturation levels of 200 and 300 percent. Meaning that in places like Lithuania or Greece people have multiple phones (or maybe they’re counting  kids and pets).

What that means is that you need to be thinking big AND small. Big in the sense that you SHOULD be thinking beyond “America” or “iPhones.” And small, in the sense that you should NOT neglect things like SMS and MMS i.e., text messages, and reaching potential customers that way.

So since I started nearly a year ago and got to watch the industry change before my eyes I was able to observe and try a lot of different things. And what I mostly watched was WHO was getting into the space and how they went about doing it. I’d like to share that with you. Basically there were 2 time frames. Around March 2010 the five players I’m going to talk about all released “lite” versions of the products they then re-released or modified in August 2010.

Brad Fallon and Dan Hollings StomperMobile

Brad of course is pretty famous as a money maker and product creator of things like SEO Elite. Dan was/is a StomperNet guy. I know I’m supposed to know more about Stomper because they’re heavyweights, but I really only know that Andy Jenkins was with them and branched off. I’m a big fan of his mailing list this year. Dan had done a Twitter product about a year back and it was a hit. As for their Mobile product it was released in the early Spring and was priced around $2000. The video’s look and feel gave me the impression they might be targeting more traditional businesses than affiliate marketers. The videos and description gave off a VERY thorough look. It didn’t originally appeal to me or seem affordable/actionable, but I didn’t know much back then either. They just did that August/Sept update to their site. Check it out, maybe their price and focus has changed.

Gauher Chaudhry and Kim Dushinski MobiBlueprint

Technically this is one product, but I’m counting these as “two” and “three” on my list because there are 2 people and they’re both professionals and have their own mobile careers but PARTNERED for this product. First is Kim Dushinski who I had been reading about since the beginning of the year on her website She’s a very big deal in the industry, in that she has a good deal of info and she’s high profile. Gauher of course is Gauher. Major money maker and teacher to other marketers. I even bought a product from him for almost 1000 bucks. I’m a big fan of his mailing list and free resources. He says he started mobile in 2007, which is pretty much when I learned about him with his “Science of Getting Rich” report that was latter beefed up and released as a CPA guide. That thing is top notch.

As I said I lost my data and all the stuff I wanted to say about this mobile product, but I will say this. It seems like a lot of “you could do this, and you could do that.” At one point during prelaunch they had to modify the OfferVault webinar to show concrete steps to take. (The had done several webinars.) And as I also mentioned this was originally released around Feb/March to a select group, but I declined this one too. The product seems to be positioning itself as a contrast to Stomper, but lower priced and the standard Gauher forum where members can share info. It was available for a week and then closed. Again, classic Gauher.

Howie Schwartz IM FoundersClub

I stumbled on this guy in maybe 2008 or possibly 2009. I had seen or gotten a video and it was all about using 2.0. At the time I was using SOFTWARE to achieve similar results, but I didn’t understand the theory. And Howie and another heavy hitter, Jeff Johnson, seemed to know how and why that strategy worked. They both give away boatloads of free stuff. But I stay on Howie’s list not Jeff’s. Just a taste thing maybe. Anyway Howie came out with his Spring mobile product too. And his methods are pretty much “join our club” or “we’ll do it for you.” So this didn’t appeal to me either. And it seemed like he only knew about Pay Per Call and texting. Little did I know…

He was quietly planning his OWN mobile CPA network. Now for those of you who don’t know, for mobile CPA we all use a German company (that’s actually British) and a French company (that’s actually Spain based- told you- mobile is VERY global). But Howie partnered with Mark Roth of OfferVault, which I mentioned earlier.

In fact let me do a little commercial. When people want me to tell them how to make money online I send them to about 3 sites; to Warrior Forum, ShoeMoney’s System and OfferVault. It’s free and quite amazing. And TODAY they just released some more new features. It’s insane.

Anyway OfferMobi is the network those 2 opened, and there are more people involved like Jimmy Chin, and even I myself am a publisher there. But I haven’t REALLY used it yet (except their AWESOME free tools). Again, my taste and techniques are a little unique.

Adam Horwitz Mobile Monopoly

Last but not least. The youngest player who I believe just turned 19 a few weeks ago. I think he released a pdf about a year back called “I hate my job.” Then in early Spring of 2009 he released Cell Phone Treasure, and it looked like he was doing the same thing I was. So I didn’t buy it. In early August 2010 he released Mobile Monopoly and had some MAJOR affiliates promoting this thing. All big names. The gravity at Clickbank was like 997 and it was merited. This was the first, and only, mobile product I had seen that was affordable, AVAILABLE, and doable. Buy it today and start tonight. Boom, boom, boom you’re done. I was livid when this came out. I MYSELF had planned to release a product like this about now, October. But this guy beat me AND Gauher to the market with a  good product at a good price. There’s a lot to mobile, many directions you can go, and you can learn theory and history and potential avenues as you go. But in terms of starting right now-this is the one I’d go with because it’s how I work and EARN. I can’t even buy it myself-in case I do release something I don’t want to get any of his ideas in my head confused with my own.

Go take a look

At his Original Program

But wait there’s more!

You should also check out his brand new EVEN BETTER program

How do I know what I know?

Well I’m just another guy making money on the internet (and phones obviously). But I’ve been at it a while, but I have ZERO interest in creating a “name” for myself (at least until certain school loans are paid off!). But basically I had a dating site in 2000-2003, started advertising on Google, Yahoo and MSN (and other places). Missed the  Adsense release-or I’d be Plenty of Fish today. But in 2003 I joined the military as an old man to kill some people, but THEY wanted me to keep doing computer and telecom stuff, then intelligence. Even though I had been trained in anthropology! So after that big bag of fun I got back online in 2007 as a blogger-cut to today. Well, there is ONE crucial point I didn’t cover; Yahoo mistakenly opened up a European mobile account for me in early Dec of 2009 and the rest is history. Since that time I’ve spent at least 1000 a month testing ad networks, offers, methods, etc on mobile.

Below is me last week meeting with the Microsoft Adverting people. I’ve been known to get in touch with people if I’m not happy. And so MANY mobile advertising networks know me personally and Yahoo and Google both got roasted on this blog. Google kicked me out and Yahoo is out of the game. Poor 7Search got a 9 page “advisory” from me, but they’re local here in Chicago, so I want the best for them. Anyway, in this case MS got in touch with ME and wanted to talk about usability and I, of course, wanted to talk about their questionable mobile advertising-but we got a lot done.

Microsoft Rep Jill Strutzman Microsoft Engineer "Y" and Internet/Mobile Marketer Dave Rosenthal Sept. 23rd 2010

By the way PLEASE IGNORE how FAT I look. I worked all year online and I didn’t realize how bad the “situation” had gotten until I saw this picture. Then I decided to loose weight, and since last week I’ve already dropped 8 pounds and I’ll probably go for 30. I know how to lose a pound a day NATURALLY and for FREE, and if that’s something you need or want to do just get in touch. Or maybe I’ll release a product…